Help with production totals for Hi-Perf 455's?

[Mr W code]

Hi everybody! New Centurion owner and just found your site. I just purchased a 72 Centurion rag top, it's loaded with options, and the W code 455 Hi-Perf engine. It also has a 3:42 posiaxle, dual exhaust etc! It's like a Muscle car supersize. I was wondering if there are any known production totals for these cars with the W option? I was told there are 2,395 72 rag tops, but that's the only numers I can find. Also, does anyone have specs for this engine? I found the carb number to come back as a 1972 GS 455 carb? It looks like a factory item, ? Any help or direction is greatly appreciated?
Paul:beers:

[centurion 455 ragtop]

Nice score Paul. Indeed you have a rare one. :xyxthumbs:

[Bob Alberini]

Hi Paul,
Welcome aboard! It is always good to add another Centurion member. Your total for production of the 72 converts is off by one. There were 2,396 units built.

The number of converts built with the A9 High Performance 455 was 232 or 9.68% so you do have a pretty rare one indeed.

If you care to do a P/M and list all your options including color and interior, I can provide you with the production information.

Someone else will have to help with the carb question though.

[Smartin]

What is the exact carb number?

[Mr W code]

Hi Guys! That's great news Bob! What do you mean by a p/m? I can attach the build sheet jpeg if that helps with listing my car options? And as for the carb number question? The number on my carb is 7042240 MB then has the date number of 1162 underneath, which I was told is the carb was built on the 116th day of 1972. With the engine being a Hi-Perf 455, I figured the fact that it comes back as a 1972 GS 455 carb made sense. I am going to try to post my buildsheet and hopefully, you guys can tell me a little more about my ride?
Paul:beers:

[Bob Alberini]

Paul,
I was not prepared for what your build sheet revealed. I don't have the time right now to give you the full break down but I will soon. Is your car still sporting its bright yellow paint (Sunburst Yellow)? If so, it has its original SCO paint which was a Skylark only color and available on other series as an extra cost option. A total of 33 (1.38%) Centurion convertibles were built in this color and yours is the first legitimate Sunburst Yellow one I have come across in documenting these cars for 35 years! So if you thought your high performance engine was pretty special (and it is), I would love to see your face as you read this. You truly have a very, very special and unique Centurion convertible. Keith Bleakney (my3buicks) also has a SCO 72 Centurion convert but his is Flame Orange and only 25 of those were built. I hope we get to see some photos because I've always wondered what one of these would look like.

A p/m is the personal message feature and I may or may not use that to give you the option totals.

Wow, you made my day and it'll excite some of the other Centurionaholics as well.:xyxthumbs:

[Centurion]

Bob, thanks for alerting us all to the unique color of Paul's car.

Paul, we'd enjoy learning anything you can tell us regarding your car's history. It would be especially interesting to hear about the original buyer's reasons for ordering the car with its unique option mix.

[Mr W code]

HI Guys! Wow. Thant's awesome news Bob! I saw that special paint option and new it wasn't a small deal, but the engine is what caught my eye! I have to inform you guys first, this car has been sitting since 1990, some of it babied, some not. To answer some questions, it still has the Sunburst paint, although some spotting is showing and fading in certain areas. The white top is almost pefect. I also see on the buildsheet, the hand written option "Paint Stripe Black " the car does sport a thin black pinstripe from the nose to the tail. It looks real nice. It must have been a gleaming ride! Also, the person I bought it from was the original owner, he ordered the car new, then sold it in 75 to a local woman, then bought it back in 1976 and has had it till now! I have the 12-23-76 MA title, mint shape. He also told me that even though it states wire wheel covers, it actually came through with the chrome plated wheels/mags. I have all 5, 4 are still under the car, the spare looks to be an original tire. Does anyone know what that tire is supposed to be? I have more to disclose, but it's getting late! ha-ha So Bob, does it mean, that there is 1.38% of the 232 Hi-Perf 72 rag tops painted Sunburst Yellow? like one of three cars? ha-ha! anyway, I hope to hear the rest of the info you decypher from the buildsheet soon, Bob!! Thanx to all for the help, keep the info coming!
Paul:beers:

[dewbers]

Welcome aboard Paul. You've found yourself a true ride there my man. The potential look when you get her cleaned up along with all that performance to boot! I am jealous! Looking forward to watching your progress. Where are you located? Looking for some locals to catch up, but there are very few of these babies around here. (Newark, DE) Did find a guy who just bought one that lives pretty close. Trying to track him down so I can get him on this board. Anyway Paul...... cheers to you! :beers:

[Mr W code]

Thanx Steve! yeah, I'm new to these "big" cars, lol, but I'm a car guy since birth! Always have had a love for cool rides, and when I spotted this one, even though it needed some TLC, I saw it in my mind as a completed car and decided it was worth grabbing. only after I found this site and posted the questions, did I find out that I have a real gem here and it made my week when Bob told me just how rare this ride really is! That got the blood pumpin'! And, using your comment about being "grown up"", I don't see myself as ever being grown up! lOL! I'll always have some old car that I will play with, I mean, if that cars are cool when you're young, then they'll always be cool no matter how old you get! You guys have been great in helping me out, and I'm looking forward to hearing from Bob on the breakdown of my buildsheet! You haven't forgotten about me already have you Bob?/ LOL!
:beers:

[Bob Alberini]

Hi Paul,
I was just afraid you might not check your personal messages on this site because I sent all the information to you a few days ago and apparently you haven't checked it. You should see that you have one unread message and once you've checked it, a lot of your questions should be answered. If not, you know where I am.

I really hope you'll bring your Centurion back to its original glory and I also encourage you to contact the original owner to learn absolutely as much about the car as possible. Questions such as why he chose the color and option list would be interesting to learn and few of us can talk to the original owner so learn as much as you can.

[Mr W code]

HI Bob, thanx for the reply! But I have no idea where to get personal messages on this site? This is the only question I posted, so I don't know where to get more info from members? Please help???:Dou:

[Centurion]

Paul, look at the upper right hand corner of your screen. (Scroll to the top.) You'll see "Welcome, Mr W Code". Below that, you will see a link for Private Messages.

Please let us know if you can't retrieve the message.

[Bob Alberini]

Thanks, Brian. I was going to give Paul the information but you've already done it and I'm sure he will now find it.

[Robroy]

Did the Centurions with the W code 455 Hi-Perf engines always come with dual exhaust?
I’ve understood that it was common to add options at the dealerships, did they ever go that far as replacing engines?
:user:

[73 Centurion]

That 3:42 posi rear axle is a rare treasure. Posi traction is a very rare option and there are long posts about the bewildering variety of axles GM stuck under these cars. The bottom line is that it's almost impossible to upgrade an existing axle. The only practical way to get a posi is to find one, and replace the whole rear axle.

Your car is truly LOADED with options and it looks to be in really good shape. A buff of the paint, some rust repair and you'll be well on your way.

Sheetmetal for these cars is hard to find, so keep an eye on eBay and Craigs list. The front end and doors can come from an Electra, LeSabre or Centurion. The rear quarters are the hardest to find.

Being a MA car you'll need to check the undercarriage for rot. Some problem spots are the outside front corners of the drivers and passenger floor boards, rear floor boards and under the rear seat just above the muffler. My car had rust problems around the body mounts in the trunk.

A good wash, buff the paint and this thing will look tremendous.

John.

[Bob Alberini]

I hope you guys will bear with me as I'm going to try to answer three different questions in one post.

PER -- Yes, the W code high performance 455 always came with dual exhausts but dual exhausts could also be ordered with the standard 455 and, in that case, the code on the VIN would have a U. The standard 455 with single exhause, of course, had the much more common T code.

JOHN -- You bet the 3.42 Positraction axle was a rarity. Only 48 72 Centurion convertibles were built with it.

PAUL -- As you've not responded to my Private Message yet, I'm wondering if you have found its placement on the website. Your information is there and I want to ensure that you get it.

[Robroy]

PER -- Yes, the W code high performance 455 always came with dual exhausts but dual exhausts could also be ordered with the standard 455 and, in that case, the code on the VIN would have a U. The standard 455 with single exhause, of course, had the much more common T code.


Thanks Bob for the clarification!
I have received an additional document from the first owner of my car that made my heart skip a beat at first sight :shocked: . It’s some kind of invoice with all the options listed and the first one says “High Performance 455 Cu. In Engine W/4”. Surely you can imagine my excitement; however the option code was A9 which is the normal T-code 455-4 engine if I got it right. Since the 350 was standard on the 73’s, I suppose they might call the 455 cid High Performance?
The charge was 124 dollars for the A9 option according to the document.

[Mr W code]

Hi Bob!
Gents!

Yes, I did get the message you left for me with the production totals! Awesome news! I guess having that level ride option and the 3:42 posi along with the W code and Special paint really brings a smile to my face!:Brow:
That's amazing that you have all that type of factory info! One thing I mentioned earlier about my car is the first owner did order the wire wheels (which looks like those are hard to find also) but when the car arrived for him to pick up, the chrome road wheels were on it. I am in the process of getting in touch with him to ask him more questions, got any I should try?
Thanx again Bob! Keep me informed!
Paul
:beers:

[Robroy]

Congrats Paul :beers:
Looks like you have hit the jackpot buying that Sunburst Yellow Rag top :beers:

[Bob Alberini]

Glad that you got the info, Paul, and I thought you might enjoy some of the findings.

The wheels are an oddity. Could it have been a factory error? I am sure that was a possibility but the dealer could have switched them also.
That kind of occurrence was usually done at the customer's request. If the original owner ordered the wire wheel covers, that doesn't make much sense unless he didn't like them when he saw them and then made the request.

I'd try to learn as much as is known and can be remembered by the original owner about the order. One question I would have for him was whether he worked for GM or had some kind of tie to them? If the answer happens to be "yes", then I'll explain to you where that idea came from. If not, then my hunch is wrong anyway. And I've already given you several questions that I think would be good to ask. If I think of more, I'll let you know.

[Mr W code]

Hi Bob, gents,

I have been pretty busy as of late, but I managed to come up with another question....I found a air cleaner lid under the bench seat and I'm not sure if it belongs to my car or not? When I got the car, the base was still there, but the lid was missing. I've never seen one of these, but I'm also new to the "big cars" so maybe one of the group can tell me what it's for? It's a pretty cool decal, anyway. Thoughts?
:confused4:

[dewbers]

This question might be better left to the Club historian's.... however, I think you have the original air cleaner top there Paul. The decal on mine is similar, though not the exact same one. However, you have the high output motor and they perhaps used a different decal on yours then they used on the rest of them. My guess is Bob Alberini or one of the other more "seasoned" guys on here will chime in on this. Sharp decal though. Will look great when you get it cleaned up!

[Centurion]

I am not familiar with this decal, but believe that this air cleaner is from a 1970 Buick with the 455 engine. 1970 was the only year with an advertised gross horsepower rating of 370.

I do not believe that this decal was original for your car.

[Bob Alberini]

I have to concur with Brian's assessment on this. I've never seen a Centurion of any year with this decal on the air cleaner.

[Mr W code]

Hi Guys! Thanx for the info. Does anyone know what the air cleaner belongs to? I figured it was older than 72 because of the change to net horsepower ratings, but I can't figure out why it was under the seat, either way, it's the only one I have that fits! ha-ha, so it's going on! It has been difficult getting anywhere with the original owner, he's not too steady upstairs, so when I do get a chance to chat, it's not all that informative. Are there any other places on the car that hides paperwork? Does anyone have specs on the high performance engine, cam, pistons, crank, heads, etc? Well, the weather is getting colder by the day in my neck of the woods, so the car is in storage, but if there are things I can further inspect, document, please let me know guys! Also, I found out that when the car was moved to the last place it sat, the tow truck guy stole the parade boot! hopefully, he gets what's coming to him, but in the meantime, where can I get one and what do they run as far as price?
Still diggin!:beers:

[Smartin]

The "370 Horsepower" part appears to be added as an afterthought. Definitely nothing I've ever seen on a Buick from the factory.

[Centurion]

Adam, I agree that the 370-HP was probably added. Like you, I have never seen this on a Buick air cleaner.

So, Mr. W Code, this could very well be the original air cleaner lid for your car, but someone might have simply modified the decal. I must admit that it looks cool.

[centurion 455 ragtop]

Spoke to "Mr Buick" Duane Heckman and emailed him the shot...STUMPED:laugh: Its a rare moment to stump Duane. So I gave Brad Conley a call and he mentioned that he did see the shot on the board. He is certain that the center section of the decal is a Buick 455 decal, but someone had taken a section of a big block Chevy air cleaner decal and carefully attached it to either sides of the Buick air cleaner.

But it is pretty cool looking.

[dewbers]

Figured I was wrong on this... that's why I said to leave it to these guys.
However, I am in agreement, it's way cool looking! I'd clean it up and use it.

Parade Boot : eBay or hopefully someone from this site Paul. Perhaps your tow truck driver will sell post it on eBay and you can set a sting on his sorry butt!!! :Blasting: :Blasting: :Blasting:

You're going to pay dearly for one though. They run anywhere from $250 and up. Emphasize the word UP in that sentence. Then it will have to be painted and you'll probably need the hardware to install. Sorry to say, the guy (tow truck driver) really stuck you by stealing yours! By the way, if memory serves me correctly, you can use any GM pararde boot from in the 71, 72 and 73 years. Meaning from Cadi or Chevy as well. You can find them new on the internet as well. But that is really costly. Good luck!

[centurion 455 ragtop]

You still gotta look and try you just never know. Over the start of the year I scored BIG time getting a brand new old stock in the original GM box ...a drivers side fender for my '73. It has the cornering headlight option. Now I'm searching for another side but thats a different story. Anyway SCORE one here FIFTY BUCKS!!!!! No one else saw it or bid on it!!! It did cost be $125 to ship, but heck it was a deal so they are out there.

[dewbers]

I totaly agree Rick! I scored big time too recently. A board member sold me my boot direct, so I didn't have to eBay bid myself to death. Very fair price. Also, I found a right side dash bezel and instrument panel bezel on eBay for a steal. ( I hope the guy I bought them from doesn't read this!) :laugh: Plus Rick and I swapped mirrors too, which was a win win for both of us..... so I guess what we're saying is that deals are to be had. Just practice patience... Set your limit and stick to it. It's frustrating at times, but overall the rewards are there!

[Richard Dunn]

Just rereading this post and I was wondering how this rare lady was fairing.
Is she being restored at all?
Are they any more photos available?
I would love to see some more.:)

[Mr W code]

Hi Richard, guys,

Things have been slow with the Sunburst jewel. The Northeast sucks for getting things done in the cold!! :rant:

I am on the look-out for a parade boot if anyone out there knows of one fairly priced? I should have some new pics soon. Also, I am not positive yet, but I may have to part with this special ride. A piece of property I have been after may become available for me to help with my car afflictions, so I might have to let the Sunburst Lady go to a new home! I would rather let all you guys know first, incase there is some real interest in her. I wish I could grab the property and keep the ride, but it doesn't look possible right now. I was thinking of just testing the waters on EBay to gauge interest:confused4:

Hopefully, I will hit the Mega-Millions this Friday and I won't have to let her go!!:D

[Mr W code]

HI Keith,

I can take pics of any area perspective buyers would like to see. I don't really have a set price in mind, I know it's a special car, and with Bob's help breaking down production totals I see that it is one of only a handful at best. So, I would figure on just hearing from people's offers and then take it from there. I might just post it on EBay anyway, just to test the water. I don't really like the idea of letting her go, but I desperately need a garage to work out of and the one I have been after might be available to me, so I need to part with some of my favorites. I will be selling my ProStreet Vette 454LS6, my 79 403 Trans Am, and my 78 Dodge LIL' Red Express also, so it's a major move for me to make. Believe me, if I can keep the Centurion, I would love to. I've never had a car as rare as this one and will probably not get my hands on one again. You guys out here have been a HUGE help for me, and I figured I would let the members know what I am planning. Like I said, I am trying to get capital for a land purchase, so I would like to see what it is worth to people?:beers:

[Mr W code]

Hi, I am familiar with the fact it's not a GS. I just sold my 70 GS455 as a matter of fact. Anyway, the body and paint I might do before it goes. A friend owns a body shop and he puts out show cars, so I think if needed, I can get that end taken care of. I have been watching quite a few of them without the options my car has go for decent money, and the fact that I have the build sheet and its loaded makes me want to keep her. I know with the totals Bob gave me on my car, there can't be 3 or even 4 built like it, with all the drive train options and everything else? I do have a few cars for sale, so maybe I'll be able to keep this one and just re-do the car? Your's is one of 25, right? Did you find a build sheet or get a window sticker? I was curious since yours is a 72, I was curious how it is optioned? Is your car appraised? I am trying to bench mark the car and I would be interested in how you valued yours?
Thanx again for the info!
:beers:

[RFortuna]

Speaking of top values, has anyone ever seen a Centurion sell for 20K? I never have, regardless of condition. I watch everything, and the highest I've ever seen is that super low mileage, dark green, all original 71 in Florida bid up to 18K, with a no-sale. I rarely see even pretty nice ones go for over 10K. All Centurion convertibles are pretty rare, but rare doesn't always mean valuable I guess. I'm not complaining! I wish they we're worthless so I could have as many as I wanted!

Randy

Randy

[Mr W code]

HI Guys,

I realize there is a price difference on condition, but I am positive it would not take me $20k to restore my car. I keep hearing of people paying 20k-30k to redo certain cars, and I laugh. It's not like restoring a WWII fighter, it's a buick and there is really not much to them. Maybe if I had to pay retail and send the car out to a shop, but I still don't see that kind of price tag to do one. I also think that having a Hi-Perf 455 AND the ultra rare 3:42 posi, dual exhaust, cruise control, lever ride, etc..etc..etc.. that my car has would really be worth more than one without those options. Adding the options to the car would not increase the value as much as having the build sheet list them. To start with having 1 of only 232 72 rag tops, then take into account the posi, dual exhaust, and the ton of additional options would make this one stand by itself, not to mention as Bob stated, this is the FIRST factory documented Sunburst Yellow one he has seen in the 35 years he has been tracking them tells me, it's worth a bit more than the $3500 being mentioned. NADA lists the Hi-Perf 455 as adding an additional 15% over the base engine Centurions, and that's just the engine! I'm confident as time goes on, my car will turn out to be the only one like it,....all the luxury and Muscle car power from the factory all in one cool car!
Keith, I noticed on other posts you saw one for a lot higher, granted, a finished car I am guessing?
"Keith wrote"
"The NJ car was the first Flame Orange Centurion Convertible I had seen, it was on ebay a few years ago - at that time I was high bidder on it. I called the owner and it could be bought for a bargain price of $29,500 so, good luck It did at that time appear to be a very nice car"

"I think a Sunburst Yellow one would look really nice along side the Flame Orange one. If I would ever be in a position to buy another, it would be a special order paint car for sure"

Either way, I'm psyched I found this car and whether it sells or not, there's no mistaking it for a regular Centurion, especially when the right foot hits the floor!!!
:beers: :Brow:

[The German]

Last year in October there was a 1975 LeSabre Convert., light blue, white top, which was sold on ebay for 20 K$.

And I also saw the ad of a LeSabre that was offered in Spain last year, but I don´t know whether it could be sold for such a high price (20 K€ !!), see picture !
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Rolf

[RFortuna]

Hey W Code,

I agree that you have an awesome and rare Centurion. Any of us "Centurion Guys" appreciate how special it is. Just don't be dissappointed if the rest of the world isn't as excited. Buicks, and Centurions especially don't have a huge following, and most people have never heard of one. My guess is that you wouldn't be happy with what it would bring on Ebay. You should try it and see. But better yet, find a way to keep it. It deserves a home with someone who sees it as special!

Randy

[Mr W code]

HI guys, Keith, don't get me wrong, I do appreciate your imput! You guys are the ones with the knowledge. But, I am not new to the collector car market either. I currently own a 69 442 W30 stick car (1 of 1097), a 72 Cutlass rag top V-code 455 stick car (1 of only 66 documented 455 rag top sicks for 72!), 1970 LS5 Corvette loaded, a 60 Corvette two top rag top with rare options, 73 Corvette L82 stick, a super rare 67 Plymouth Sport Fury w/ 383 Super Commando and rare 4 speed with console and tach, 68 Corvette 427 tripower rag top, 72 ProStreet Vette tubbed drag car, and 5 or 6 other collectables and I've been at this for more than half my life! I'm a dedicated car guy for sure! Ha-ha! More of an addiction! As for the other 32 Sunburst cars, I would feel pretty confident that they don't all have the rare options identical to mine. As a matter of fact, in looking over the registry, there are a ton more base engine cars out there than anything else, so that should also help my car's value? I'll be the first to tell you, I stumbled upon this one, and didn't know what a Centurion was! But, I'm really happy I decided to save this one from more years of neglect!
:beers:

[The German]

Rolf, I believe the light blue 75 LeSabre you mention is the one with less than 5000 original miles. I got to see that car at a Buick National years ago in Maine and it is a stunning original. It truely is a peice of history.

Keith, the text regarding the blue car was : " This 1975 Buick Lesabre Custom Convertible has emerged from it's time capsule to be offered to the public for sale. This amazing automobile was recently purchased from an estate, and has been in climate controlled storage. The 24,700 original miles is correct, except for wear items, the car is totally original. The Blue paint is original and it is in remarkable condition! Top is white and shows no signs of wear, it works perfect. ... ..."
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Rolf

[dewbers]

W and guys.... I hope W gets all that and more for his ride! Then I can start to feel like I didn't over pay too much. It's time for the Centurion market to kick it up a notch! :laugh: We've got special cars that cause a commotion whenever we take them out! They're rare. They should be priced accordingly. Need to set out mindset that way! Keith, I don't disagree with your point, b/c the proof is there. But, I am at least one of how many that would like to see the market give the Centurion it's due!

W - you mentioned a Trans Am and others that you might sell? Tell me/us some more this one. Would love to see pics and know more about the car. I may have an interest in it. Hell, I've got an interest in all your rides. That Olds sounds like fun and so does that Centurion! (no, I am not buying it!)
But that trans might be fun. Pls let me know. PM me if you'd like, or post it here. Want to see some pics if possible.

Thanks!

[The German]

I wonder if it was the same car and had racked up the additional miles at some point. Did the car actually bid up to and sell at $20K or was it listed at $20K and a no-sale?

... sold for US$ 20000 at 1.Oct. 2007 !
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Rolf

[Richard Dunn]

Keith, you know you're killing me with this picture. LOL.
It makes me want to head across the river to New Jersey again....

[Mr W code]

HI Gents!
Back again after a busy few weeks trying to get things going on my property purchase. I have begun going through the W-Code 72 Centurion rag top, it now has all new brakes, lines, etc. I'm looking for a factory gas tank for it, the original has a wear mark from the strap and looks like it has seen better days, so I am looking for a real nice used or new, if they're out there? After talking to a few friends, I think I'll be doing the body before summer, we'll see. But for those of you looking for a cool drive-while-you-restore ride, I am selling my 72 Buick GS350. Pretty rare color combo to boot! Factory Burnished Copper Irridescent, with a covert vinyl top and saddle interior! The color is very cool, although someone gave it a GSX style paint scheme it currently has on it now, the original colors are real nice! Anywho, the gas tank is my next object desired, so if any of you guys know where they made be hiding, I would appreciate some info! kingjinx@msn.com
Thanx, Paul
:beers:

[Smartin]

Where are you located, Paul?

[Mr W code]

Hi guys!
I'm located in Fall River, MA. It's the southern coastline of the state.
Dewbers, got your email, I'll put a little collection of what I am looking to sell, maybe we can chat about my 72 Buick GS350 too. Also, how can I add the little lines of what cars I have under my member name, like the ones I see for you guys?
:beers:

[Richard Dunn]

Had I known I would have stopped by and drooled all over your '72.
I was on the Cape two weekends ago so I zipped through Fall River twice.

[Mr W code]

HI Richard, wow, too bad I didn't post my location earlier, you'ld be welcome to check her out anytime. :Brow: The warm temps' are coming and I'm itchin' to get things going on the cars this summer!:laugh:
Dewbers, I haven't had a chance to get back to you, but here's a snap shot of what's here.
:beers:

1967 Plymouth Sport Fury Fasttop w/383 Super Commando 4bbl, with super rare 4speed, console, tach, suregrip posi, etc.
Research is calling it probably 1 of less than 10 cars ever built, no power brakes or steering
1968 Corvette rag top 427/435 w/ stick and transistor ignition
1970 Corvette 454 LS5 4spd w/ air, pw, pb, etc., loaded, owned since 1988
1960 Corvette two top, 283 w/ four spd, swapped out in 70 for a 69 Z28 302 Jimmy king built engine
1973 Corvette L-82 4 speed icld. 383 /425 hp stroker
1973 Corvette ProStreet w/ 70-72 nose , factory ce454 LS6, Alm heads, tubbed, etc. pro job
1979 Pontiac Trans Am 403 big block T-Top Myan Red/Blk, Indiana Car PHS papers (gone)
1969 Oldsmobile 442 W30 w/ 4spd and rallye gauges, Platinum w/ red stripes and interior
1972 Oldsmobile Cutlass rag top, 1 of only 66 ever built, with factory “V” code VIN # means 455 4spd.
1972 Buick Centurion rag top, 1 of 33 factory Sunburst Yellow cars, w/ factory high perf. 455, dual exh. and posi
1978 Dodge Lil’ Red Express Factory High Performance 360 engine
1972 Buick GS350 factory Burnished Copper iridescent, covert vinyl, saddle int.